(Video)Discursul Presedintelui Bush despre situatia din Georgia – 11 august 2008

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  1. ha ha ha! What can Bush do? He can’t even defeat Al Qaeda can it defeat Russia? I say Russia should invade Tbilisi & kill Saskasvilli. The Georgians are fools for starting this war, they don’t deserve to have a country, they should remain a province of Russia

  2. Hey, Georgians, stop dreaming about Bush, it’s 5th day of the war & if Bush COULD do anything, you should not be cowering in Tbilisi now. Listen, the Russians will eat you & Bush can’t do a thing. Wanna bet?

  3. Sakashvilli is a fool- how stupid he was to attack Tskhinvalli? What is the fool’s IQ? Can’t he see that the US ios in recession, bogged down in Afghanistan & Iraq, Bush is practically ignored by the American people- does Sakashvilli think the US has the appetite to be embroiled in a war with Russia yet with thosands of inter-continental missiles directed at US cities? I bet if the stupid Georgioans don’t kill Sakashvilli himself, the Russians should attack Georgia & kill Sakashvilli themselves.

    The Georgians were turned into bad dreamers by Sakashvili & time to wake them up from their foolishness. Beter turn them into another province of Russia..

    Georgians seem like flies on an elephaht & they think they are elephants themselves. Just because some US officialls patronizingly winks at them, they fantasize have clout with the US. Look how nobody wants to help you now. Wake up!!!!
    It was Sakashvilli who led you to fantasize so you mst lynch him.

    Better yet, Russia attacks Georgia, kills Sakashvilli & tursn Georgia into a Russian province again.

    If somebody complains, point your ICBM’s at them.

  4. I think Russia should reoccupy Georgia, Uktaine & Moldova, then try to get the Russian areas in Lithuania, Latvia & Estonia. These small countries are better as Russians than citizens of small countries which don’t matter much anyway & just play hilarious games like what the Georgians showed

  5. from NEW YORK TIMES:

    In Georgia Clash, a Lesson on U.S. Need for Russia

    By HELENE COOPER
    Published: August 9, 2008
    WASHINGTON — The image of President Bush smiling and chatting with Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin of Russia from the stands of the Beijing Olympics even as Russian aircraft were shelling Georgia outlines the reality of America’s Russia policy. While America considers Georgia its strongest ally in the bloc of former Soviet countries, Washington needs Russia too much on big issues like Iran to risk it all to defend Georgia.

  6. And State Department officials made it clear on Saturday that there was no chance the United States would intervene militarily.

    Mr. Bush did use tough language, demanding that Russia stop bombing. And Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice demanded that Russia “respect Georgia’s territorial integrity.”

    What did Mr. Putin do? First, he repudiated President Nicolas Sarkozy of France in Beijing, refusing to budge when Mr. Sarkozy tried to dissuade Russia from its military operation. “It was a very, very tough meeting,” a senior Western official said afterward. “Putin was saying, ‘We are going to make them pay. We are going to make justice.’ ”

    Then, Mr. Putin flew from Beijing to a region that borders South Ossetia, arriving after an announcement that Georgia was pulling its troops out of the capital of the breakaway region. He appeared ostensibly to coordinate assistance to refugees who had fled South Ossetia into Russia, but the Russian message was clear: This is our sphere of influence; others stay out.

    “What the Russians just did is, for the first time since the fall of the Soviet Union, they have taken a decisive military action and imposed a military reality,” said George Friedman, chief executive of Stratfor, a geopolitical analysis and intelligence company. “They’ve done it unilaterally, and all of the countries that have been looking to the West to intimidate the Russians are now forced into a position to consider what just happened.”

    And Bush administration officials acknowledged that the outside world, and the United States in particular, had little leverage over Russian actions.

    “There is no possibility of drawing NATO or the international community into this,” said a senior State Department official in a conference call with reporters.

    The unfolding conflict in Georgia set off a flurry of diplomacy. Ms. Rice and other officials at the State Department and the Pentagon have been on the telephone with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, and other Russian counterparts, as well as with officials in Georgia, urging both sides to return to peace talks.

    The European Union — and Germany, in particular, with its strong ties to Russia — called on both sides to stand down and scheduled meetings to press their concerns. At the United Nations, members of the Security Council met informally to discuss a possible response, but one Security Council diplomat said it remained uncertain whether much could be done.

    “Strategically, the Russians have been sending signals that they really wanted to flex their muscles, and they’re upset about Kosovo,” the diplomat said. He was alluding to Russia’s anger at the West for recognizing Kosovo’s independence from Serbia.

    Indeed, the decision by the United States and Europe to recognize Kosovo may well have paved the way for Russia’s lightning-fast decision to send troops to back the separatists in South Ossetia. During one meeting on Kosovo in Brussels this year, Mr. Lavrov, the foreign minister, warned Ms. Rice and European diplomats that if they recognized Kosovo, they would be setting a precedent for South Ossetia and other breakaway provinces.

    For the Bush administration, the choice now becomes whether backing Georgia — which, more than any other former Soviet republic has allied with the United States — on the South Ossetia issue is worth alienating Russia at a time when getting Russia’s help to rein in Iran’s nuclear ambitions is at the top of the United States’ foreign policy agenda.

    One United Nations diplomat joked on Saturday that “if someone went to the Russians and said, ‘OK, Kosovo for Iran,’ we’d have a deal.”

    That might be hyperbole, but there is a growing feeling among some officials in the Bush administration that perhaps the United States cannot have it all, and may have to choose its priorities, particularly when it comes to Russia.

    The Bush administration’s strong support for Georgia — including the training of Georgia’s military and arms support — came, in part, as a reward for its support of the United States in Iraq. The United States has held Georgia up as a beacon of democracy in the former Soviet Union; it was supposed to be an example to other former Soviet republics of the benefits of tilting to the West.

    But that, along with America and Europe’s actions on Kosovo, left Russia feeling threatened, encircled and more convinced that it had to take aggressive measures to restore its power, dignity and influence in a region it considers its strategic back yard, foreign policy experts said.

    Russia’s emerging aggressiveness is now also timed with America’s preoccupation with Iraq and Afghanistan, and the looming confrontation with Iran. These counterbalancing considerations mean that Moscow is in the driver’s seat, administration officials acknowledged.

    “We’ve placed ourselves in a position that globally we don’t have the wherewithal to do anything,” Mr. Friedman of Stratfor said. “One would think under those circumstances, we’d shut up.”

    One senior administration official, when told of that quote, laughed. “Well, maybe we’re learning to shut up now,” he said. He asked that his name not be used because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the issue.

  7. Georgia’s Sakashvilli And Medea
    by Gaurang Bhatt, MD

    The current republic of Georgia was known as the kingdom of Colchis, where the Greek mythological hero Jason went to obtain the Golden Fleece. He and his companion faced countless perils and would have perished but for the fact that Medea, the princess of the realm was infatuated with Jason and being a sorceress (related to Circe of the Odyssey), used her magic and skills to betray her father. She eloped with Jason and the fleece, back to Thebes in Greece. Jason like many ambitious and older men, ditched Medea and went for a power and trophy wife, the daughter of the Theban king. Jilted Medea took her revenge by poisoning the Theban princess and killing her own two sons, Jason’s only progeny. She sought asylum in another kingdom and left Jason despairing alone, with his children and ambition destroyed.

    Georgia’s most infamous son was and is Josef Stalin. He rose to become the tyrant ruler of the entire Soviet Union of which Georgia was one of the Republics. Georgia with its Mediterranean climate and hilly contours was a major supplier of fruits, vegetables and wine to Russia, its major trade partner. Under Soviet rule as a peripheral republic, Georgia was rife with corruption, black markets and smuggling. Things got worse during the last years of the Soviet Union in the late eighties. A Georgian dissenter from a prominent family named Gamsakhurdia led political protests and on dissolution of the Soviet Union went on to become the first elected president of Georgia. He made the same mistake as the Bandarnaikes of Ceylon with the Tamils, by policies of Georgia for Georgians while oppressing the 30% minority population of Russians, Muslim Caucasians, Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Seeds of secession were sown in two regions, Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

    His tenure was corrupt, inept and dictatorial and he was ousted and Shevardnadze, the former foreign minister of the Soviet Union took over the presidency of Georgia. Gamsakhurdia left Georgia, but returned to start a civil war in which he lost and committed suicide. Shevardnadze had obtained the assistance of Russian troops who remained as peacekeepers ever since like the British in Ireland hundreds of years ago. The Shevardnadze regime indulged in equally bad corruption, nepotism, black markets, smuggling and mafia tactics with increased crime and a deteriorating economy. He also tried to militarily conquer the two provinces and failed his atrocities were reciprocated by seceding ethnic enclaves and hundreds of thousands of Georgians were thrown out from the two provinces to become refugees in the Georgian capital of Tblisi.

    The newest avatars of Jason were Clinton and Bush Jr. With delusions of grandeur. They wanted a new empire for America, the sole hegemon. Clinton broke his agreement with Russia and expanded NATO to Russia’s near abroad, former satellites to contain and encircle Russia, collapsing economically and militarily. Bush Jr. became even more provocative after 9-11 and engineered a rose revolution in Georgia, an orange revolution in Ukraine, military bases in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The US has been giving military aid and training to Russia’s former satellites, just like it did in Latin America, Indonesia, Pakistan, Philippines, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia and Algeria, promoting coups.

    When it overthrew the government of Kyrghyzstan in the Tulip revolution, the Uzbek president Karimov wised up and threw America out of his country and invited the Russians back in. The new Ukrainian government fell apart and the new Kyrghyz president raised the rent for the US airbase by an exorbitant amount and gave a nearby airbase to the Russians. The absurd pretense of installing radars and ABMs in Poland and the Czech Republic to deter non-existent Iranian missiles is another lie by Bush to neutralize Russian missiles and be in a position for a pre-emptive strike against Russia.

    In Georgia, America found a willing stooge in Sakashvilli who replaced Shevardnadze. He studied in America and has an American wife. As usual the US trained the military and gave arms but did nothing to improve governance and promote law and order. The policies were the same as in Afghanistan and Iraq where years of military occupation has brought nothing but insurgencies. Sakashvilli is bolder and more foolish than the run of the mill American puppet satraps and while the world’s attention was on the Beijing Olympics, decided to use police action and military force to subdue its two rebellious provinces which have virtually seceded and have Russian military peacekeepers. There is no doubt that Russia has used its energy resources as a weapon and support to favored factions in Ukraine and Georgia to prevent them from becoming NATO bases surrounding Russia. Putin’s policies are a natural reaction to America’s policies and implicit threats, as are North Korea’s and Iran’s desire for nuclear arms to America’s threats.

    So two days ago Georgia sent its forces to take over South Ossetia and Abkhazia and it has led to large casualties of its forces and civilians. Sakashvilli’s perfidy of killing his own inhabitants matches that of Medea and he will end up seeking asylum in America. Medea was just angry, scheming and vicious, while Sakashvilli is insane, blundering and stupid to have assumed that he could take control of the breakaway provinces before Russia woke up. He calculated that since he had gone along with the Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline via Georgia which America built to bypass Russia from the Caspian energy resources of Azerbaijan, America would support his misadventure morally and militarily. America is up to its eyeballs in the quagmire of two losing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Sakashvilli had studied history, he would have known that guarantees mean nothing for small nations of little consequence. Poland’s integrity was guaranteed by both Britain and France and for it they started WW2. Nevertheless Poland suffered massive casualties, loss of independence, occupation for fifty years and got nothing but grief and casualties despite promises and incitement.

    August 10, 2008

  8. Shut up, you f…ing russian spammer.
    You, primitive bolschevik and nationalistic mind

    For the admins: Why don’t you cut this mentally retarded ?

    Heroic Georgia is fighting our fight; she is defending the freedom and security of all Europe.
    Out of Georgia, primitive bastards.

    Stop killing innocent people
    Stop murdering innocent civilians in Georgia

    Support the Freedom Fighters!
    Georgians, we’re with you, you’re are not alone!let’s bump off the bastards

  9. It’s URSS & Cold War all over again. USA won’t do anything. Wouldn’t that sound like WW3? And besyde that, USA is in the middle of an economic crisis, so i don’t see actions for the future. They’re all cowards and it’s about interests. The big powers don’t care about civilians, they’re just numbers.

  10. Obamadze……give up this flamboyant rhetoric and look around you.Did the citizens of the West really care about Georgia?They have another thoughts those days…Who is with the Georgians?YOU???Your friends?


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